Arch Evens Testimony: He Asked God For A Sign And A Stranger Ran After Him

A man can run hard, wreck his life, and still find himself praying in the dark. That’s what makes Arch Evans’ testimony hit so deep. We sit down together at the 421 Studio with Arch, his wife, and our friend Deb Osborne, and we walk straight through the real story: early drug use, a season of Satanism and occult curiosity, years of alcohol and hard drugs, and the brutal reality of meth addiction that ends in homelessness, trauma, and losing time with his kids. 

What changes the direction isn’t a perfect moment, it’s desperation and a risky prayer. Arch talks about fasting and asking God for a sign that He’s still listening, then getting an unexpected invitation to church while they’re simply trying to survive. From there we dig into Christian addiction recovery as it actually looks day to day: cravings, triggers, shame, and the slow process of letting things fall away as faith becomes more than a memory. 

We also get honest about spiritual warfare and the stuff many people avoid saying out loud, from pornography and sexual sin to Ouija boards, séances, and what it means to “open doors” you can’t easily shut. Along the way we talk forgiveness, free will, family wounds, and why restoration can take years but still be real. We close with hope and purpose, including a vision for reaching homeless neighbors with compassion that comes from lived experience. 

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Transcript

Welcome And Guest Introductions

SPEAKER_00 0:26

Hey, it's your host, Eddie. You're listening to Testimony Hour on the 421 Show. Hey, go check out our website at HOR421 Show.bussprout.com for all the latest content and information. And if you'd like to support the show, you can support it through PayPal slash HOR421. Or you go through our website at HOR421 Show.bussprout.com. Praise the Lord. We got us a guest today, and it is Archie Evans. Did I say that right? Arch. Arch Evans. Sorry about that. And his wife is in the studio with us, and she'll be chiming in here and there. And uh he's gonna be sharing his testimony. And I also have the host of Bible Talk with us, Deb Osborne. She's sitting in the studio with us. And what we're gonna do is share the goodness of God and what he has done for us. And God is good, is he not?

SPEAKER_03 1:25

Yes, sir.

Early Drugs And Satanism Curiosity

SPEAKER_00 1:26

Yes, he is. He brought us up from the ashes of this world and brought us into the light of God. God is so good, he's so wonderful. And I just can't thank God enough for what he has done. And I just pray that that God allows me to be a good steward of the things he places in my hands. And to be honest with you, that your mic, brother, you're you're good to go. Tell us where God had brought you from and where he's taking you and all that goodness. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:52

Well, I whenever I was younger, I grew up pretty much in a partridge-like family. Yeah. Perfect mom, perfect dad growing up. Um when I was about eight, I started smoking cigarettes and marijuana and started dabbling in alcohol. Um I did a lot of that. I did psychedelics when I was about twelve or thirteen, increased. And sixteen years old, I got a book, and I was always raised in church. But whenever I became a teenager, of course you know craziness goes on in your and I started dabbling in Satanism.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 2:32

And I did it for about eight months until I learned what the black mass was.

SPEAKER_06 2:38

Yeah.

Meth Spiral And Losing The Kids

SPEAKER_03 2:39

And once I figured that out, I was like, ooh, no, you know, all I was wanting was chicks and you know, my ways. And um and I parted uh about that until I was about eighteen, you know, it was all of blurred in that time. I had a bad breakup when I rose around 21, and that threw me for a swing because I was gonna get married to her and all that. And um then I went on a real drinking sponge. And um I was doing coke and crack at that time too, and uh all kinds of stuff, sexual immorality. Um and then I met my wife at like whenever I was twenty four, twenty-five. I was still drinking, not as heavy though, you know. And um started going to church again. Then we finally had kids. And uh I started meth when I was thirty-three or thirty-four and that lasted for around eight years, and I done it every which way possible. Um and when whenever I was doing the math and stuff, we was in a position where we are we was staying, that I realized how bad I was getting and I knew that my kids was not in a good place. And I literally prayed that if God had to do something to me to get the kids out to do that. Well, lo and behold, about a year later, and I prayed that constantly, even whenever I was messed up, because I remembered, you know, whenever I was younger, the little lessons that I learned. And uh lo and behold, I was in a big accident and I got electrocuted. Wow and the kids went ended up going to uh my father-in-law, and that's where they're at right now. And there's been a little bit of a breakthrough on that, of the turning around on that part. But um we ended up in the woods, homeless. Still doing math. You'd think I'd have turned around at that time, but I didn't.

SPEAKER_00 4:56

It's amazing how you you just the deeper you get into the sim, but you always have in the back of that mind, you know, that I don't need to be doing this, I don't need to be doing this because.

SPEAKER_02 5:05

Yeah, we never learn our lesson.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Just keep going deeper, and it's just like I don't get it. You know, I think we've all been there.

SPEAKER_03 5:11

Yeah, not until he puts you in that place to where you finally realize, hey, this thing it's turn around or die. Yeah. You know, and go to hell possibly there. And that ain't good.

unknown 5:23

No.

Fasting For A Sign

SPEAKER_03 5:24

And um, well, as uh we was up there for about two years in the woods, that's where we went. Because I wasn't gonna come to the city if I was gonna have to live that way, I wasn't gonna do that.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:36

I'd rather be in the woods. But um I was praying and fasting, I did that for like a day and a half. And about a week later, three days to a week, I can't really remember that time. But we was gonna go up the hill to the blessings box up there, and we decided to go to the other one, the one in front of our church that we're going to right now. And um lo and behold, uh because in that fasting period, I was asking God, you know, if I'm if you're still listening to me, please show me a sign somewhere or another. And uh lo and behold, a girl came out running and chasing us. As we was going past her, because we have to be going to get that, we was gonna go get her next fixed.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:23

And um she stopped us and she was like, Well, why don't you come to church with us today? And she didn't know I had fasted and prayed this.

SPEAKER_00 6:31

Right.

SPEAKER_03 6:31

And so I turned around and it was like, we was like, okay. And we went in that service and um after we went there, we didn't do nothing for we we slacked off of it for a little while. And we still dabbling a little bit, but uh eventually I met Danny and Allure by going through to church there. And um that was whenever I knew, hey, this is no longer gonna happen with us. You know, God is blessing us and uh he's bringing us back. Yeah. And I'm not gonna ever go back to that again.

SPEAKER_00 7:15

You know, God says the steps of a righteous man ordered by God.

SPEAKER_03 7:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

And and I look back and I remember when you guys first started to come, was about the same time I started to come and the same time Danny and the Lord started to come. Really? And a lot of the actual that's when the start a lot of the new members started at the church. And and I keep thinking back, and it's like, and the Lord keeps telling me, the steps of a righteous man order God by God. And he places us in positions and we don't know, we don't see the big speck of it.

SPEAKER_03 7:46

And if I hadn't gone through all that, I I probably wouldn't.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

And look where you're at today.

SPEAKER_03 7:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:52

You know, you're you're proclaiming God's good word, yes, you know, all over the nation. God is so good. He really is great. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_03 8:01

He's the great master, that's for sure. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 8:03

See what I think is so awesome is you said you were raised in church and you never actually you always had the Lord on your mind. Yes. Because you said you prayed here and you prayed there, and fasting and praying and being a sinner. Well, I wouldn't have thought about fasting when I was doing crap out there. And I may not have not have got in deep as some people. Uh my demon on my back, of course, we know what my demon was, and and the Lord finally, you know, got that off of me. But the thing about it is it's so commendable, it's so awesome that you never left, you never really totally left the Lord. I mean, he was still there, you still prayed to him, you still, whoo, I feel the Lord, you still had him right there, and you still like called on him in your time.

SPEAKER_03 8:45

I mean, you know, that's what it feels like to me. He never really left.

SPEAKER_00 8:49

He don't, he don't ever leave you.

SPEAKER_03 8:50

Like never.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

You know, I've I've re I tell my testimony all the time on the show, but you know, in short, though, is when I walked away from God, you know, I walked over that blood in short, and he never left me. Seven years that I was away from God, he came to me that night, you know, and and and asked me to pray. And it's like he never left me. He was always there.

SPEAKER_03 9:12

And during whenever we did first lose our kids, uh, we was going in to uh do a phone court thing. And that day, somebody stole our phone before we couldn't do it. Oh wow. And I was so mad, you know, I was furious.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

Yeah.

Getting Clean And Facing Triggers

SPEAKER_03 9:29

I was like, God, why? And then two years later it came clear why, you know. Right.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

Well, we look at the picture now, you know, how God just moves.

SPEAKER_03 9:39

Yeah, and now it's been what, three years?

SPEAKER_01 9:43

Maybe two years in July.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

Two years in July. We've been clean since the two years in July.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

Praise the Lord.

SPEAKER_03 9:48

Wow, that's my youngest I mean, my oldest daughter is now getting into contact with her.

SPEAKER_00 9:54

And um I mean I It's been six years. I've not held no alcohol in six years.

SPEAKER_03 9:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

Maybe give or take, you know, a few months, but yeah, I'm just gonna say roughly six years.

SPEAKER_03 10:05

Well, the last drug I held on to was weed.

SPEAKER_00 10:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:08

And um see that was me. I I thought it was okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:12

I mean, I was I was like, Lord, it grows out in the wild.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

I mean I was a binger. He was like I could quit for three months, come back and and drink like I never left. Yeah. And you know, that was just my choice.

SPEAKER_03 10:24

Alcohol, and I don't know if I ever really was a true alcoholic because I never do get DTs or nothing, but maybe some alcoholics don't. I don't know. I would classify myself as an alcoholic because I drank for a long time.

SPEAKER_00 10:36

I I'm glad I didn't, but you know, every person I'd ever seen that DTs off alcohol, you know, it's hallucinations, bad withdrawaling, it you know, instant death if they don't take care of them. It ain't like coming off a dangerous, it's not like coming off, you know, a handful of oxies or anything like that. These people could literally, you know, die. Oh, yeah. And and I never experienced that myself either.

SPEAKER_03 11:00

Well, what got me off the weed was because just like you, I thought, you know, it was good, but then God started telling me, You're going to sleep because you're high and not reading my word when you get the book in front of you.

SPEAKER_02 11:13

Yeah. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

And I was like, you know, you're right. You know, I I I I hear you, Lord. Right. And uh and I quit that. I was like, no, no, no more. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:24

I've noticed though in my walk with God since I've come back, you know, not everything left me at first. You know, things kind of gradually just kind of fell off the cliff as I've got, even now, you know, and I got saved in ninety-seven and I'd walked away from God in 20 uh 13. And even then when I was with the Lord, you know, there was just things that gradually just kind of fade away. I'd let go or I'd things I'd pick back up. And that uh, you know, if you know, if I'm not I guess to say that, you know, if there's somebody out there struggling, you know, with pod or anything, because it it is, it's hard, even as being saved, yes, to let stuff go, that you know, God's still with you. He still he gives us allotted time. Yes. And and I think not as I can't tell you what that time is. Yeah. But you God knows.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

We're all human. Yeah. And until we get that glorified bodies, we're always going to sin. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:27

And uh But I thank God that we can ask for forgiveness and you know, repent of it and stuff. You know, we've all fallen short of the glory of God, you know, and uh we've all repent we've all sinned, you know, and it's just the truth is, you know, and a lot of us don't want to admit it, we want to be perfect. Yeah, we're not.

SPEAKER_03 12:45

You see, I thought I was doing good because you know, I was still reading the Bible some and stuff. Yeah, I had to totally stop going to church. I was still drinking, I was still looking at some pornography sometimes. Right. And and um and I just uh I thought I was doing okay until we ended up in that spot whenever God started reopening my eyes. And I was looking around and the place is all messed up, you know, and I could barely put food in the cabin.

SPEAKER_00 13:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:16

And uh I was like, Lord.

SPEAKER_00 13:18

Well, that's when the reality of truth hits you, and see, and that's what God's all about. It's about showing you the truth. And you know, once the truth is revealed to us, that light kind of allows us to see all the dust mites and all the little cracks and you know, everything that's turns into a microscope. Basically, yes. Uh sometimes like Lord, I don't want to see that. Yeah, but you know, James, you have to see that because that's where you started to fall your first time.

SPEAKER_03 13:47

It's like, am I really that bad of a person?

SPEAKER_00 13:50

And it oh man, when I started to realize how bad of a person I was until I come back to God. Yeah, because I was like, I'm still doing, I went back, reverted back to the old things that I did before I backslid. Oh yeah. And the Lord's like, I'm about to show you something. And he he revealed all that to me, and I'm like, oh God, I'm sorry. Yeah, I I I can't do this. You know? Yeah. It it tore me from the ground up. It literally tore me. Yeah. And I was like, oh geez.

SPEAKER_03 14:20

Well, I mean, like it says, you know, whenever you're with him and you go away, what is it, like seven more spirits is throwing at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

Yeah, I've experienced that too. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, and uh it it it was horrible for me because I had to live like a hermit for a while. I couldn't really commute with nobody and in the house that I was living in. I'd just stay in my room, you know, and and and I as as those things started to manifest, I can feel them just gradually moving back away from me. The more I started to serve God and got closer to God, reading his word. And and it every now and then, you know, some of those those demons rear back and they'll try to push their way back in, and I'm like, no, I can't do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:07

Yeah, they try to sneak their way back in the crevices of your mind.

SPEAKER_00 15:11

I think that's something we'll have to deal with though until the day we die.

SPEAKER_03 15:14

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

Yeah, you know, and I hate to say that, you know, if you you know, if you're listening out there and you deal with alcoholism, you're gonna have to deal with that spirit for the rest of your life. Though God sets us free from it and we have the authority and the power.

SPEAKER_03 15:28

And God will number it. Yeah, he numbs that feeling. Yeah, like me, I I never think unless I'm around people talking about it.

SPEAKER_00 15:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:35

Around people talking about it, then it starts to trigger stuff.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

Well, you know, the enemy knows our triggers though. Yeah. He he knows exactly what to tempt us with, you know. Yeah. And it's I understand what you're saying though, man. Yeah. You know. I know when I when I first um gave my life back to the Lord, and I was holding on to not just marijuana, that was the last thing I thought with the Lord about. Yes, but I the lifestyle that I was living, I swore up and down that I was born that way. And I would argue, but now you know, are I'd argue, man. I would have the biggest argument with you about it. Uh and so when I finally did, I gave my life back to the Lord of all the things, all the tables that I sat at, and all the rooms, the the the the drugs, the drinking, all these little rooms and tables that I sat at, I seen the Lord slowly pull me out of all of that. I didn't do it, I couldn't do it on my own. He did it.

SPEAKER_06 16:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:33

And so I I and it was like this one thing, my lifestyle. I was born that way, Lord. I know I was. And so I would try to praise him and and feel like my feel that my prayers was going to ceiling and right back on me. Oh, yeah. And it was a battle.

Ouija Boards And Spiritual Doors

SPEAKER_03 16:49

I mean, it was a battle that And I realized after, you know, I turned back around to the Lord that He He wasn't doing evil to me. I was doing the evil, but he was lifting up the uh the hedge of protection so that I can mess up enough to come back to him. And because if I would have just had that little bitty of a bump every now and then of evil, I would have never came back fully to God ever.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

God is good.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

Yeah, God is great.

SPEAKER_00 17:25

You know, you was talking about, you know, witchcraft and the Lord tried to suck or not the Lord, but the devil tried to suck me into that lifestyle as well. I didn't practice, so you know, I didn't do the coveted and I didn't go into the chance and and all that, but I do know quite a bit about it because a lot of my friends was always around. Somebody was around that dabbled in it pretty heavily.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

See, I would have been scared, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_01 17:49

You was in it too. It was fascinating. I wasn't in it, but I was fascinating. So were you raised here? Were you rough from Harlan?

SPEAKER_03 17:57

No, I'm from Charleston City, Thomas City.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

But what was scary though, I wasn't raised in church, so the only thing that I ever had was what my grandmother taught me when I'd come and stayed with her visit her, was a couple Bible verses, and I knew that some guy built this ark and floated on it. And I said, God's out his truth is my witness. But that was enough, and that was enough sparking to me. But every time that I would get around it, because I was fascinated with that type, you know, with with that that that scenery.

SPEAKER_03 18:31

You know, there was some kind of power in it. Yeah, you didn't know it, but you felt something.

SPEAKER_00 18:34

I I felt the power, and you know, and you can feel it's a true witness.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

And it was like, and it was like drawing me. It was like it was like, you gotta go, you gotta do this. I was always around it, even when they was doing doing their doing their thing, you know, and and I can remember one time, you know, we did the Ouija board thing, and you know, yeah, that's it. You know, I don't care what people say. You can say it's a toy or something that's put on a shelf. No, it's it's the real deal. They may, you know, and that amazes me that the enemy, he makes it look like a simple trinket. Yeah, but in reality, you know, we don't know how powerful, you know, that little wooden board with those symbols and you know, asterisk and all of that that's on there, what the true meaning is behind it.

SPEAKER_03 19:23

So it's got a spell on it.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

Yeah, and you know, that it and as I got older, you know, and I I do understand quite a bit of it, you know, but I do understand where you're coming from on that.

SPEAKER_03 19:35

Which I've never did the Weachie board, more like what I did was the seances.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

The the candles and you know, you're you're your your gate, you're going through the gate. You know, you're allowing you're opening that spiritual gate uh of the enemy, and that's how the enemy uh comes into us. See, because physically the enemy can't touch us. Even as, you know, but when we open that gate and we allow that enemy to come in, that's when possession takes you know a hold of you, and that's where you can do some ungodly things. It's crazy. Wow. But I can remember though, even back then, I guess the short though, I can remember I knew it was it was fascinating, but in short, I I knew it was wrong. Yeah. This this wasn't right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

Even though I could feel it, it wasn't See, I didn't really get into it too too deep. Because all I was wanting was as a teenager, I was just wanting to get the girls and to be popular and stuff like that. And then I read about the black mice and what is included in the black mast, and I seen how truly dark it really was.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

Yeah. Wow. Yeah, it it's I I get back and I look back at all the things that, you know, I I I just I don't know how to say it, you know, the things I put myself into.

SPEAKER_06 20:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:55

And I think that I didn't go too deep into that. Because I know myself, you know, once I get into something and I I enjoy it, I go about as deep as I can go with it. Yeah. You know, um, I like it, I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03 21:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

And it's just plain and simple.

SPEAKER_03 21:11

Yeah, that's how I was on meth, because I originally started doing that whenever it was to to work better, to work harder.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:18

And well, it didn't end up being that way. I ended up jobless and homeless.

SPEAKER_00 21:23

Well, see, I couldn't do drugs. You know, you can call me, you know, pansy what. Yeah, I get sicker than a dog.

Sexual Sin And Spiritual Warfare

SPEAKER_06 21:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:30

You know, just couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

I call I call that blessed.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

Yeah. Yeah, it is blessed, trust me. Yeah. Because I know if I'd liked it, that'd be it, you know. Yes. So alcohol was my choice. You know, adultery was my choice, you know, drugs. I was addicted to adultery, I was addicted to alcohol, you know, and uh, you know, I I I grew up with uh strong, I guess the right word would be uh strong sexual desires. Yes. It goes deeper than pronouncing. It goes deeper than you know, I was drawn to that lifestyle, you know, uh that sexual type lifestyle, the experimental type stuff, the fantasy type stuff. And and uh it, you know, I used like pornography and stuff to fuel that, but my true addiction was, you know, I had such strong desires in my heart for that. And I still fight with those demons, you know, but God is graceful enough, you know, to keep them at bay. And I thank God for it. I do.

SPEAKER_03 22:29

Oh, yeah. If we went for him, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:32

He he's what it's hard for me to talk about this.

SPEAKER_03 22:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

Because that's one of those you just can't like get up and tell everybody, but I'm on the bike and I've tell everybody. So I kind of like it just come out. So, you know, people, you hear it. There it is, you know. It it is, and I think that's one of the biggest killers of our church today is is you know, those types of uh addictions. It was an addiction.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

Yeah, instead of being addicted to the Lord, I was addicted to the dark.

SPEAKER_00 23:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 23:03

And thank God now I'm now I can't get enough of the Bible, you know.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

I love the Bible.

SPEAKER_03 23:08

And learn how to rightly divide it. That's that's where I'm at right now.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:12

Is learning how to do that. And I just glued on it most of the time. If I'm not doing that, I'm watching some kind of a sermon or something.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

That's awesome. I know when I when I come back to God, it was constantly. I'd I you see these boards I have on the walls, my whole room looked like that. Really? I had sticky notes here and strings here, and I was like, you know, and it was just the Bible was it. And that was the only way I got through it was a lot of prayer. Yes. Even fast and um and a lot of a lot of reading. Yeah. Is how I keep those those uh demons at bay, you know.

SPEAKER_03 23:51

Oh yeah, man. It's the only way you can keep them at bay.

SPEAKER_00 23:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

Is praying and and and God let you block them out whenever, you know. Like he's he's he's helped me a lot. Uh like I was talking before the uh program, I'm a master at being able to block stuff, and that's a gift that he's given me.

SPEAKER_00 24:10

All right. Because with that, I can I I know you're not supposed to envy, but I look, come on, I wish I could do that. Me too. My my life is like a book to me. And I remember almost everything. I can recall things happened to me from when I was five or four. I'm like, I don't want to remember this.

SPEAKER_03 24:31

Yeah, Becky was like, I wish I could do it because I could meet somebody and know them for a year, and I can if I don't like them, I can she'd be mentioning them. I'm like, who's that? Who's that?

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Yeah, he's serious.

SPEAKER_03 24:43

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

Wow, wow. Well, tell us more about your life.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

Yeah, well, right now things are going good because of God. Yeah, amen. I've got a good job. Uh I'm going through a Bible institute, online Bible institution. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

That's something I've never done. I've always wanted to do.

SPEAKER_02 25:04

I thought I've wanted to too. I never could, I just never did it. I've Yeah I I tell you what I think is admirable and awesome that I think about you is is you sat here and you told us that you fasted and prayed before you even gave your life to the Lord.

SPEAKER_03 25:19

Yeah. Wow. Which I gave it to him earlier. I think of it more as a coming back.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Well, yeah. But that's still awesome. I mean, yeah, I can barely fast and I'm, you know, been with the month. It's you know, it's hard for me to do that now.

SPEAKER_03 25:34

So I think the longest I've ever fasted, which I'm not giving glory to me, but this is me. I did it for like three days one time. See, ain't no way. I was wanting to crawl on the ground when God gave me the strength to do it.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

But throughout of all the sin that we go through, the truth still, there is a still that little bit of spark in us. Yeah. It'll always be with us till the day we die. And I believe once that spark goes out, that's when it's it.

SPEAKER_06 25:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:58

That's when the man hits to the reprobated mind, and you might as well hang it up, you're doomed. But I thank God for that little bit of spark that was in me. That little bit of spark that was in you and these two sisters here, because we wouldn't be sitting here in this room today if it wasn't for him giving him the glory and the honor.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

Amen. Yeah.

unknown 26:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

Yes, praise the Lord.

SPEAKER_02 26:21

So how so how many children did you guys have? Four.

unknown 26:25

Four. Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

And they're with their grandfather. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 26:30

Yeah. And she's not reached out to me yet, but I'm there for when she's like, But you know what though?

SPEAKER_02 26:36

God'll make God'll work on that. Yeah. I'm sure He will. Oh yeah. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00 26:41

Well, a little insight, you know, as far as that goes, you know, a little lift up, and especially if anybody's listening, especially to you guys, you know, um, growing up, I never seen my father. I could probably count on one hand four times.

SPEAKER_05 26:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:55

Now my dad lives with me. Wow, that's 49 years old. Yes. You know, and just now starting to get to know my dad. You know, and uh uh it comes.

SPEAKER_03 27:07

Took a long time coming, but it came, you know.

SPEAKER_00 27:09

Yeah, uh I I was probably about six or seven when my dad walked away from my family. Wow and uh maybe a little younger, I don't know exactly, but around there and uh Yeah. It it uh healing comes when we least expect it. And it took the death of my mom for my dad to come back into my life. Me and my mom got our healing together. But it took the death of my mom for healing to come back in for me, my sister, and my dad.

SPEAKER_03 27:40

Yeah. And it's hard not to blame other people and and in that way they're blaming God whenever a lot of people what I had to realize was it is all free will, whether it's somebody else's free will or your free will.

SPEAKER_02 27:56

Right.

SPEAKER_03 27:57

You know, it it's not God's fault when something bad happens to you, it's that person's free will or your free will that did. Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 28:06

Well, I tell you what I can I don't know, I think I might have told uh Rebecca this, but I I can speak from experience that I wasn't raised with my mom and dad. My grandmother, they adopted me and my twin sister to my grandmother when we were nine months old. Yeah. Uh I they come in and out of our lives. I always because I have other sisters, there's there's five of us all together. My twin and I are the middle of five girls. Uh so my my sisters was in and out of my life growing up. My mom and dad was. My dad died when I was 10. So I never got to have a daughter relationship with them.

SPEAKER_03 28:43

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:44

My mom, I didn't have a relationship with her till after I was 16. Because my family didn't want me to go around them. They wouldn't let me actually had to hide. I had to sneak.

SPEAKER_06 28:52

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 28:52

But what the reason I'm saying this to say this. When I got 16, I wanted to talk to my mom. And I wanted to ask her questions. Why did you do this and why did you do that? And you know, you had others, you had two more after me and my twin sister. Why'd you keep them and not us? So we had all these questions, and my family hated it now. They didn't want me talking to her. But I was 16 years old and I wanted to know.

SPEAKER_06 29:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

So I say that to say this. Your kids will come to you someday, and they'll cut they'll ask you questions. Yeah, they'll be curious, just tell the truth. Yes. Well, I know you will. I'm not done, no doubt about that. Oh, yeah. I'm just I'm saying this to tell you, and I feel the Lord, someday they'll come to you. It might be five years down the road. They're already trying to talk to you, right? Someday your kids will come to you and they'll they'll want they'll want to be they'll want to have answers, they'll ask you questions. I did that.

SPEAKER_03 29:46

I know. It'll be a hard day for me, but I'm I'm I'm longing for that day.

SPEAKER_02 29:50

I'm sure my mom thought the thought the same thing because I had they had told me so many bad stories about my mom. Uh, but when I got old enough to make my own decision to sit down and talk to her, and I heard her side of the story, it was different. And then I decided, you know what, I gave my life to the Lord in high school. So I knew I didn't have a choice. That's my mom. I can't hold a past against her. I had to let it go. Yeah. I'm not gonna make it to heaven that way. And and the Lord above, I know the Lord had a move on that. I got a I had a daughter, mother-daughter relationship for a little while with my mom before she died. I got to say, you know, I call her mom and and go spend time with her. You know what I'm saying? Yes. So it it it'll come, it's coming. Yeah. Just give it to me.

SPEAKER_03 30:35

To me, it's like a long period of mourning, is what it feels like.

SPEAKER_02 30:39

Right. Right. But it'll come. Because like I said, I I got faith in it. It will. If they get curious, they'll want to talk to you. Cause I did. I defied my whole family to go talk to my mom. They hated it. But I don't I didn't care, you know, it was my mom.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

I had all those questions too. I wanted to ask my dad, and I still ain't asked them.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

I know God's gonna I I pray that he works on our heart.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

Because he know he will. I have a relationship and that it trumps it all.

SPEAKER_03 31:11

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

All the questions that I had with my dad that that wanting a relationship with my actual physical earthly father trumps everything that those hard questions I wanted to ask. And eventually, over a period of time, the Lord had said, This is why your dad left. And the Holy Spirit taught me. He says, See, James, you're not too far from your dad. You know, um see James, I always repented, I always fallen short of the glory of God. You're no different from his. And and I I start to see myself in my dad, and my dad and me. And and uh and I see what all those shortcomings I never grew up with the man, didn't know him. Yeah, and I just acted just like him. Really? Wow, that's fascinating. And and uh so that took me down that journey. And uh I don't hold nothing against the man. Yeah, and I don't want to bring up old past when I see him physically trying to want to change. Yeah. Because I could see it bothers him when when certain subjects are brought up by other people, or you know, yeah, you know, you get around certain areas, you're like, oh yeah, this reminds me what's going somewhere else, you know. Right, yeah. So healing's coming. Yeah. And uh all those what if questions, God will take care of everything.

SPEAKER_03 32:42

The hardest part about the spiritual walk is probably other humans, not letting the past be the past.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

Oh, yeah. You will get that, especially in Little Oakwood.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

They don't understand and they don't understand how you can just let go. Yeah, you just want that, you want that embrace, you want that love, but then they're like, tell them to do this, they deserve this or do that. They don't deserve it. Yeah. They do they really don't because in truth and reality, I deserve just as much.

Childhood Wounds And Sin’s Ripple Effect

SPEAKER_03 33:12

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we all deserve to be. I mean, we don't deserve what we got. You know, we ought we we do better than what we ought to be doing, usually.

SPEAKER_00 33:23

Right. Yeah, my whole life, my whole childhood was span about or spun around who am I? Yeah. You know, who am I? You know, I didn't have nobody to really look up to except for my mother, and she was, you know, a hardcore coke addict, you know, you know, worked two jobs, never homes just to support hers. Yeah, you know, macaroni and cheese and ramen noodles in the counter, and that's what I ate.

SPEAKER_06 33:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

You know, and there's a point in my life that it was homeless living in a pop, uh park. You know, we go over to the alley and eat from the dumpster. This is no lie. Yeah, you know, this is the truth. Uh we ate hostess cakes that the uh vendor threw away because they was a day old.

SPEAKER_03 34:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:08

We ate day old bread that they threw.

SPEAKER_03 34:10

I've met a lot of like that. And at one time, whenever we had another little rough spot and she was up here taking care of her mom with the cancer.

SPEAKER_06 34:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:18

And um, I was basically myself living that way. So I mean, I couldn't imagine what it would be like being a child and having to be like that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

Relying on your local pantry to supply you with food, you know, and clothing, furniture.

SPEAKER_06 34:33

But look at where you are now.

SPEAKER_00 34:35

Living in a car with like three or four other people.

SPEAKER_02 34:38

Get the blessings.

SPEAKER_00 34:39

You know, and they're like, you know, what can you and then you're having to worry about, you know, transits, bums. These are people that's choosing to live out on the street.

SPEAKER_03 34:49

Yeah, I've met people to choose it.

SPEAKER_00 34:50

And you know, I I the park that that that I grew up in, you want to say, was was a local park, you know, and they had what they call a community bath. Everybody took a bath in that. Yeah. Wide open. Wow. This is this is like, you know, late 80s. You know, this is like middle of a city. That's crazy. Yeah. You thought Tent City was bad. Yeah, this little area I grew up, you know. It just that's what sin does to you, though. Yeah. And we don't know, we don't realize how much that when people are in our lives, that the sins in our life affect them also.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

Yeah, and I also have learned every time I say I'm not gonna be like that, yeah, I end up being like that. So now I'm gonna say I'm not gonna end up being like Billy Graham, and maybe I'll get to be like Billy Graham or something, you know.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

I like that. I like that mentality right there.

SPEAKER_02 35:46

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

But yeah. It's just um it just amazes me. I I look back, you know, and the sin that I've committed and how much it's affected. Me walking away from God.

SPEAKER_03 36:00

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

I was like, I'm not married, I ain't got no kids.

SPEAKER_03 36:03

No strings attached.

SPEAKER_00 36:05

I didn't see it until I got back in church and I moved back here.

SPEAKER_03 36:08

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 36:09

The people that was in my life then when I walked away, wasn't in church no more. Wasn't serving God no more. Yeah. God says, that's James, how much your sin affects just even the people that you're around.

SPEAKER_06 36:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:24

You you're like, well, I'm not around them once a month, you know, or not every day. That's how much our sin affects. That's how strong of a light that we bear.

SPEAKER_03 36:36

It's a ripple effect. Oh, I'm getting into that kind of philosophy, but it is a lot of things.

SPEAKER_00 36:40

Definitely a ripple effect. Yeah, definitely. Yes, yes. What else would you like to talk about? Well uh Sister Rebecca, was there anything you would like to say?

SPEAKER_01 37:00

Um, I just know in his life, like he was talking about um being a part one whenever I was up here with my mom with cancer and everything, and he was into some stuff down there, and I know that he got a hold of some stuff one time through the mail.

SPEAKER_03 37:22

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:23

And it it was it was scary because I knew something was wrong and his mom, she got a text message that he didn't send that said help. And he was dead.

SPEAKER_03 37:38

I didn't send that message.

SPEAKER_01 37:39

He he was dead.

SPEAKER_03 37:41

I don't remember anyway. I mean, I was doing some gray, gray line drugs.

SPEAKER_00 37:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:47

You know, wasn't legal, wasn't illegal, but in the gray, and it was uh a bunch of stuff. Um stuff that was stronger than Coke, twenty times stronger than Xanax's and stronger than LSD.

SPEAKER_06 37:59

Right.

SPEAKER_03 37:59

And I took it all at one time, and um and my mom ended up showing up with the cops, you know, and it saved me out of that situation.

SPEAKER_00 38:09

That should just show a man or a woman how much the devil really wants to kill us.

SPEAKER_03 38:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

And how much of uh he must see something when we're first born.

SPEAKER_03 38:21

Yeah. I've tried to kill myself about three times.

SPEAKER_00 38:24

Yeah. He must there they got to be something that that we physically let off that for him to attack. Because I look at some people, you know, they live a fantastic life. Yeah. And then I look at my life and I'm like, Lord, why'd I have to go through this? It's because God anointed us at birth. Yeah, everybody's anointed. I'm not saying that, but there's there there's those there's a percentage of people we that that go through some really hard times when they're young, and I say, Lord, why do we go through this? Because there's a calling on our lives. Yes. There's a strong calling.

SPEAKER_03 38:57

Oh, yeah. And it would I could have avoided all that if I would have just stayed where I was at when I was younger with my mom and dad and going to church, and I but that's what the devil meant for to kill you, what did God say?

SPEAKER_00 39:10

He'll turn around it for the good.

SPEAKER_06 39:12

Yeah, for the good.

SPEAKER_00 39:13

Yes, yes, he will. He will. He definitely will. Well God's so good. Yeah. I can't say that enough. No. I really can't. And uh anything else you'd like to talk about?

SPEAKER_03 39:26

Jesus is a miracle worker. Yes.

Slow Growth And Ministry To Homeless

SPEAKER_02 39:28

Let's look where he brought you, though.

SPEAKER_03 39:30

Yeah. You know?

unknown 39:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 39:32

Every time I he he he makes a map, it's like he's making a map, and every time you take a detour, God keeps you turning that. But each time you get off of that road that he's got you on, yeah, the harder it is for that detour to turn around. Until you once wake up in a tent contemplating, you know, ending it for you and your wife. You know, that's whenever I faster it. It was either if something's going to break through or I was going to end it because I wasn't going to have his dying out there like that.

SPEAKER_00 40:03

Right.

SPEAKER_03 40:03

Wow. You know.

SPEAKER_00 40:05

And you know, now you're you've got a stable home and got a vehicle and you know, and you're you're working, and you know, and that's awesome. From what you was just two years ago up till now.

SPEAKER_03 40:18

Yeah. Oh yeah, it's going slow, but I don't think he's wanting me to get up there fast either, because the fact that he knows how easy I can forget, you know.

SPEAKER_00 40:28

Yeah, I I'm the same way.

SPEAKER_03 40:30

Yeah. He's like, I I just got one foot up right now on the ground. I'm waiting to stand up.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Uh, it's like with this podcast, you know, God says I'm gonna start off small, small and slow.

SPEAKER_03 40:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 40:42

And uh, you know, I see other people start off with, you know, doing podcasting and doing, you know, this type of talk, radio type show type stuff, and they right they're up there. Yes. But God says, No, I got other plans for you.

SPEAKER_03 40:55

Yeah, and plans you can't even see.

SPEAKER_00 40:57

No, uh and uh and and I see them. Every time that I have somebody in here, like you know, these good brothers and sisters in the show with me, I see where God is taking me. Yeah, I see professing God's goodness, you know, towards the whole world. And we look over in another country right now, and you know, we're we're in a battle right now with another country, and yeah, it can escalate here in just the next minute or two. Yes. Or three days from now or a month from now.

SPEAKER_03 41:26

Yeah, and we ain't careful what's gonna happen here.

SPEAKER_00 41:29

It can get awful quiet one day, and next thing you know, you know, it can happen. Yes. The you know, the sky can darken, the moon can darken, and you know, it's just that's the truth. It's reality and it's yeah, very big reality. I you know, and I I was telling you we was talking before the show, you know, before we started hitting record, you know, I've I'm in all the continents, you know, around the world, and I'm in countries that they're legally listening to the show. And uh that's a big responsibility. Yeah. And uh and I thank God for giving me that honor and that, you know, stewardship of it.

SPEAKER_03 42:05

And I just hope and pray to God that I know that can be a big week.

SPEAKER_00 42:08

And I thank God that you know that I I'm doing it, and I think that the brothers and sisters that's in the show, you know, we're we're part of it.

SPEAKER_03 42:16

Yeah, oh yeah, and we're about to we're gonna try to start something ourselves. Yeah. Not really ready to something. Not ready to say exactly what it is, you know. But let's pray about it, brother. We're working on something to maybe reach the homeless people that are out there in the state. Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:32

Uh yeah, because it that that's gonna take somebody that's been there.

SPEAKER_06 42:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:35

I was gonna say that that you guys can touch, you can set at that table. Some others can't. Like me, I can there's a certain audience out there that I can talk to, that I can say, okay, this is what I did. You guys are the same way. You you know, you've been out there, you can Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:52

It's because you you you know the you know the lingo, you know, you know how to walk, you know how to talk, and you know how not to disrespect, you know when to say something and when not to. And I think that's what a lot of the people don't understand. We can all go out and minister. Yeah, right. We can all go out there and proclaim God's goodness, but to reach those people that others can't reach, you got to understand them. You got to know where they're coming from, you know, and then I think that's where we're set aside those one percenters or two percenters, you know, that that anointing comes from that power of God, you know, those Apostle Paul, yeah, you know, type people, you know, that can reach just certain people. Well, I mean he reached masses, but I'm saying, but there's a lot, you know, Apostle Paul was a scholar. Yeah, Apostle Paul is a school. You know, there they was people that Peter and all the rest of them probably never would be able to touch, but Paul was able to touch because he got put in that situation.

SPEAKER_03 43:48

Yeah, he's he walked that over the line step. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:53

It's not that we can't do it. And and God God puts us, you know, we do it, you know, but God God's got special plans for you. And you look back at this this show we're doing here today, you know, this is just a small glimpse of where God's taking you. Yeah. And teaching you and and ha and showing that you you can go out and talk to people. You can communicate with them. You don't have to sit back and you know live that secluded life. And it was hard for me at first to do this. You know, to do that. And I I totally understand where you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 44:26

Right now I'm using most of my time to educate myself because whenever I do do what we're about to do, I don't want to be a blanket answers, you know.

SPEAKER_00 44:35

Study and show yourself approved, definitely. And and that's amazing too. And when I first started this, I was like, Lord, I can't do this. Yeah. I'm not no scholar. I'm not not went to be Bible theology type school. And and then I had people come up to me and just start rambling on about the Bible, and then all of a sudden things just start coming. It just starts popping in my frond, you know, you're just like bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And then God says, I told you. It's like, Lord, I was horrible at school. I can't remember nothing when it comes to intellect type stuff. Yeah. He says, It's there. Yeah. He said, just when you least expect it, it pops up.

unknown 45:15

You know.

SPEAKER_03 45:16

Yeah, he he he does do that quite a bit.

SPEAKER_00 45:19

And and I believe without a shadow of a doubt, though, when you are put in those tight situations, you will have the answers.

SPEAKER_03 45:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:25

And you'll sit back like you gotta bless it out of blessing somebody else.

SPEAKER_03 45:31

Well, I was told at a young age that I a preacher that my childhood preacher, because I could read, I could always read and understand a lot of the Bible. He's like, You got a gift of understanding scripture like a lot of people ain't got.

SPEAKER_00 45:45

Right.

SPEAKER_03 45:45

And um, so I was that kept just keeps reeling in my head, and I'm like, I need to use that, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 45:51

You know, that's what I think that's one of those things, because there's things in my life that God reels in my head, and I think those are just saying the Lord keeps reminding us, hey, this is where I'm this is who you really are. This is who I created.

SPEAKER_03 46:04

It's like I can't even go to sleep right now. It's in my head so much. Yeah, I know, right?

SPEAKER_00 46:09

And it's just God is so good. Yeah, He is. Um you got anything else?

SPEAKER_03 46:15

I can't think of nothing.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

No, I I do thank both of you for coming on the show. I really do.

SPEAKER_03 46:21

Thanks for the opportunity.

Armor Of God And Final Invitation

SPEAKER_00 46:22

And, you know, I always will have an open door for you, both of you. And if there's anything you ever want to talk about, his platform's just as much as yours, it is mine. All right because we're all in the kingdom of God, we're all working together. I guess. You know, I go always go back to the story of Nehemiah. You know, when he was he looked at the wall and he cried out, and he'd seen where the church had fell and how the church had fell. And he brought the brothers and sisters together to rebuild that wall. And see, and that's my goal in this is to rebuild back that wall of the church where it's fell. If it's some type of addiction, you know, whatever that addiction may be. Yeah, you know, whatever you're facing, and if you're facing you know, suicidal thoughts, just to let people know that you know, we're here to help you.

SPEAKER_03 47:08

Oh, yeah. It's all covered by the blood.

SPEAKER_00 47:10

Yes. And you guys are more than welcome to come back on the show. You just hit me up, you got my number, you know, we'll we'll make everything happen. Thank you, brother. Definitely. And Sister Deb, what do you got? I know you got you could you just got all kinds of stuff to say.

SPEAKER_02 47:26

I uh I appreciate you letting us into your life and and telling us a lot of people don't like to talk about their past. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:32

Oh, it's horrible. Past is horrible. That's why I told you that's one of the reasons. I mean, I didn't really want to I do want to do it, but the want the being open part and bringing the stuff back to memory to actually remember it.

SPEAKER_02 47:47

Well, the thing about it is is something you said here today will help somebody.

SPEAKER_03 47:51

I hope.

SPEAKER_02 47:52

Somewhere, somebody out there will listen at what you said and it's like you don't want to give glory to the sin that you did.

SPEAKER_00 48:00

You don't want to say, No way, I chased a dragon for 30 years, you know. I just don't want you know what I'm saying? It's just like or, you know, I I had you know you just don't want to do it. You know, you don't want to give glory to that and just hype it all up, make it fantasize it and all that.

SPEAKER_03 48:15

It's not, it's this about being human and we're and God being there every step of the way.

SPEAKER_00 48:21

I think that shows us that we are human and we know the the reality of sin and what it can do, and we don't want to go back to that. But the reality is though that we need to share and show people. Yes, you know, and I you know, I you know, the writings of Paul is one of the best things that taught me how to bring out, not reliving my sin, but bringing out and showing you I am the chief among sinners. You know, that in a nutshell tells you I've done a little bit, and let me come here and talk to me. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know. You know, and and what is persecution? That that's you know, putting a knife in somebody, that's either you know, burning them at the stake, however you want to call it, beheading them. Yeah, you know, these are just some gruesome people, you know. They didn't care, you know. Stone you to death right in the middle of the street, you know. That that's just for adultery, you know. Do you imagine what they would do and hang you upside down for doing something else, you know?

SPEAKER_03 49:19

If you're in bowling or that stuff.

SPEAKER_00 49:21

But yeah, I'm so grateful that you guys was it was a struggle to get you guys on the show eventually, you know. But that's how God works, though. It's it's it's his timing.

unknown 49:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

And I knew to come to you guys at night, I come to you at the church and asked you because I heard the spirit say go ask them. Yeah. And uh, and and and it's always like that. You know, I asked somebody and I just it's timing. It's when God and we just what scheduled you, I think it was on the 18th of April, and just didn't work out. But see, you're here today and God knows it all. And I think if we really look at it, somebody is gonna put their headphones on one day or put their ear pods in or listen to it on a computer, and that's when it's gonna they're gonna listen. No matter where they're at in the country, around the world, they're gonna listen to it.

SPEAKER_02 50:10

I do want to say this. No, and I'll hush. No, you can't say anything. Um you know, since I have been at uh Kwood Church of God, the Lord has brought so many great, awesome people in my life, and I thank God for you too.

SPEAKER_00 50:25

Yeah, tell us about that testimony right there. How God put you with us.

SPEAKER_02 50:29

Yeah, and you, you brothers J.D. The Lord has brought a lot of awesome people into my life. Sister, I love you. You're my sister in Christ. I'm so glad that the Lord brought us all together and brought us in each other's life. Um, I will say this. Someday we may look forward, I am gonna look forward to meeting your daughters and your kids. Maybe they'll be in church with you one day. I feel the Lord when I say that, it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 50:56

Restoration moment.

SPEAKER_02 50:57

It's gonna happen. So I look forward to seeing you and your family all together coming to church, and I want to meet your kids. Anyway, so thank you. Thank you for like I said, somebody needed to hear the stuff that you said today.

SPEAKER_00 51:11

You know, we're I'm gonna go ahead and we're gonna close this. And if anybody's out there listening, you know, let you know that there's people out there that's going through pretty much the same thing you're going through. I've chased my whole life, those what if questions. You know, who am I? And I know there's somebody out there is chasing the same. And that's why I think that's one reason why we do what we do as far as sin goes, is you know, we we're we're chasing who we are, what what we think we should be, and in reality, who we are is how God made us at the beginning.

SPEAKER_03 51:46

Sometimes you just need to be quiet and listen to God.

SPEAKER_02 51:49

And and the enemy knows who's the thing there is being quiet and listening.

SPEAKER_00 51:53

The enemy knows who we are, yeah. And that's why he attacks us with something.

SPEAKER_03 51:57

That's our favorite color.

SPEAKER_00 51:58

And he's got our ticket. Yeah, he has our number, and uh he will use anything and everything possible to put a stumbling block in front of you or a trap. And you know, and who we are in Christ is putting on the whole armor of God. Yeah, it's just not for battle. What that whole armor of God represents is role, role being royal. We're royalty. You know, we we shod our feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace. And what that means to me is that peace means wherever my feet thread, I'll have victory over it.

SPEAKER_03 52:36

No matter what I do, I'm at peace.

SPEAKER_00 52:38

You you because when you got that peace of God, there is nothing that will stand in your way. You'll look at that mountain, you'll say, be removed. You'll cast that tree over into the ocean. You'll part the waters in the seas. You'll speak to the enemy, you'll cast the devils away. I think if the church can see that, we'll see a different church today. Yeah, and like I said, that's my whole goal. And again, I'd like to thank you, brothers and sisters. I know I thanked you a million times already, but you know, I we don't get a lot of people in there, you know. God gave me the strengths, yes. But when he does put people in our path to put us on the show, I know it's of God. Yeah. And that's what I thank God for, just not to have anybody and everybody here. And he has I've had people in here, I'd like, nope, that ain't supposed to be of God. Yeah, but God turned around and made it to where it can be. And I've seen the scriptures physically work that way, and how God can move and do everything. And I guess I'll just close out. And if there's anybody out there that's listening, give your heart to God. I promise you. It will change you, He will make you into something that you never knew that you will, you know. I promise you, he'll make a big difference. And uh that's it. I guess that's all I have. And you've been listening to the 421 show. This is your host, Eddie. I cut the mic off on my own self, but I thank God for everything. Recorded at the 421 Studio. For contact information for all your studio needs, you can email at H O R 421 Mysteries at gmail.com. Phone number is 23984950.

SPEAKER_05 54:13

Hallelujah, name above all names. Take a look at the book, and then you're not sure.